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Wurst Werner
05-14-2010, 07:02 AM
Yesterday we had Father's Day over here in Germany. I don't know how this day is handled in other countries, but the main goal for most of the guys here, is to get seriously drunk. In addition some loud "background noise" aka "live music" is helpful for most of them in this situation.

Since eleven years I'm doing sound on a Father's Day event in my area. Two Top40 bands are playing rotational from 11 a.m. non stop till 9 p.m. (when it's getting dark). That's why we never install lighting in the stage, otherwise the boozy crowd would never leave ground.

Suitable for this kind of event, the budget for the pa system is quite small.
That's why we use a ground stacked, three way active r'n'r system, which is really loud and simply does the job. Concerning the mixing desks, we started with an old Peavey MK 8 Mixer. Than we went on with A&H GL4000, Yamaha 01V96, Mackie TT24 or Roland M400. The event grew from year to year and we had to give up our normal mixing position, because of the sometimes annoying drunken people around us. Some guys just don't understand, that a mixing desk has NO build in beer tap...if you know what I mean. So we did a "strategical retreat" and set up the mixing desks right on one of the bars:-)

That is very handy concerning our own beverages supply, but also forces us to size down our FoH gear/mixing boards. This year one of the bands was mixed on a Yamaha 01V96 with additional inputs via ADA8000 and I did the other band with my SAC system. The master outs of the 01V96 were connected to my SAC rig, so the other sound guy could use the RML analyser for his mix too.

BTW: The other sound guy was Ruben Tilgner, a hell of a sound guy, and the former chief developer for SPL. He invented including the SPL Dynamaxx and the SPL Transient Designer. Now he runs a hi end company called Elysia (www.elysia.de (http://www.elysia.de)). When he arrived, he first thought I was joking about "mixing the band with a laptop". After the soundcheck he was impressed right away. I used a small netbook during the soundcheck and could walk around the ground. He had to mix in our (acoustical) difficult FoH area and had to run back and forth to check to sound in the main audience spot.

We had ten hours to go and during this time (including: power loss, rain and lots of "flying beer") I showed him the basics of SAC and he really liked the possibilities and the sound of it. He just released a software version of his "mpressor" unit-->
http://www.elysia.com/software/mpressor/introduction/
He promised, I will get one to check it out in SAC. ;)
To sum it up:

SAC did the job! Even better than any other board in the last eleven years. I'm really happy with SAC and hope, that 2.6 is coming soon.


Cheers'n'Beers
Christian

P.S: Sorry for my plain english.

Some pics:

http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/2189/img5927e.th.jpg (http://img686.imageshack.us/i/img5927e.jpg/)

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/472/img5936tr.th.jpg (http://img121.imageshack.us/i/img5936tr.jpg/)


http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/7817/31103131033867951212619.th.jpg (http://img514.imageshack.us/i/31103131033867951212619.jpg/)

Greetings from Ruben:

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http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/7227/img5940l.th.jpg (http://img163.imageshack.us/i/img5940l.jpg/)

Bob L
05-14-2010, 08:52 AM
That's what we like to hear... keep spreading the word.

Bob L

Bruce Callaway
05-17-2010, 02:27 PM
I really enjoyed your description of the event and great work with SAC...

Wurst Werner
05-18-2010, 02:39 AM
Thanks Bruce, I guess my writing is unintentionally funny due to my lack of English:)
But I try to improve it.

Christian

mako
05-18-2010, 02:59 AM
Thanks Bruce, I guess my writing is unintentionally funny due to my lack of English:)
But I try to improve it.

Christian

No - it's better than most native english speakers - including newspaper editors.
This younger generation has not a clue and don't care either.

Your writing is excellent.

cheers mako

Wurst Werner
05-18-2010, 03:22 AM
@mako: wow- thank you! I learned English in school...twenty years ago. Now I teach myself by watching "Simpsons" in English...or try to understand the SAC manual:-)
But it is a shame, if I meet someone from scandinavia or the netherlands. Obvious to me, that these countries have a way better educational system concerning foreign languages than germany:-(

Peter O
05-18-2010, 04:21 AM
@mako: wow- thank you! I learned English in school...twenty years ago. Now I teach myself by watching "Simpsons" in English...or try to understand the SAC manual:-)
But it is a shame, if I meet someone from scandinavia or the netherlands. Obvious to me, that these countries have a way better educational system concerning foreign languages than germany:-(

There is one other major factor; television! In Germany I believe you translate most of the english films and let Germans speak over the images (I don't know the technical term, but I hope you know what I mean). In Denmark, where I live, all the foreign films are subtitled, so we get to hear all the english and other languages while we se films on tv.

Regards Peter O.

Wurst Werner
05-18-2010, 06:06 AM
There is one other major factor; television! In Germany I believe you translate most of the english films and let Germans speak over the images (I don't know the technical term, but I hope you know what I mean). In Denmark, where I live, all the foreign films are subtitled, so we get to hear all the english and other languages while we se films on tv.

Regards Peter O.

Yep, that sounds reasonable. I live near to the dutch border and most of the durch television is not dubbed (is that the right term?) too. The use mostly subtitles. "Normal" conversation is not that difficult, but "abstract english" like in the SAC manual is a real challenge for me;-)

Christian

Peter O
05-18-2010, 07:36 AM
As you can tell from my spelling errors and generel language use, I'm strugling too! The important thing is to let all pride go, and just write something. In my experience people with english as their first language are generally very forgiving when it comes to foreigners mutilating their language :-)

Regards Peter O.

mycorn
05-18-2010, 11:35 AM
In my experience people with english as their first language are generally very forgiving when it comes to foreigners mutilating their language :-)


that's because yall's english is a boatload better than [most of our]
deutsch or scandian

fwiw
mh

Pedro Itriago
05-19-2010, 02:18 AM
All your SAC's are belong to us!