OT: Folding cart...

[Donnie Frank]

SAC-heads;

I'm in the market for a folding cart. I've seen the kind that can be used as a dolly or a hand truck, but I can't remember the brand I saw. I'm performing in a lot of casinos and I'm tired of looking for carts. This is mostly for my drum kit, but will more-than-likely be used for my sound company, as well. I'm looking for something relatively light-weight, compact and sturdy. I want something of quality that's going to last. At this point price is almost no object. I've budgeted 300 bucks.

I figure this group of musicians/engineers probably has more experience with folding hand trucks and/or dollies than any other collective on the planet, hence this OT post.

When I do drumming gigs, I get my entire shebang in either my 1998 Honda CRV (the "big" vehicle) or my smaller 1988 Honda Civic Wagon 4WD. The latter vehicle gets better mileage, so I tend to use it whenever possible. My GF, Patti, will be using it, too. So it would be beneficial if it were "girl friendly." IOW, easy to use and not too heavy to lift. But those are secondary concerns.

I'm looking for recommendations AND caveats. IOW what to buy and what to avoid.

Thanx a ton for any help you guys can give.

[Paul Henry]

Like these?

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/search/search.jsp?sB=r&question=cart

for small loads I have one of these:

http://www.amazon.com/Magna-Cart-Personal-Hand-Truck/dp/B000HVVSDU

[Russell Landwehr]

Those carts at Musician's Friend look cool and versatile.

Pneumatic tires are important to me. They wear better. However, be prepared to replace the inner tubes with goo-filled lawntractor tubes for better life.

If you want to try-before-you-buy, hardware stores such as Home Depot or Lowes will usually have a selection of transforming dollys.

Russell

[Donnie Frank]

Like these?

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/search/search.jsp?sB=r&question=cart



Yes. The "rock-n-roller" carts look to be exactly what I'm looking for. The problem here is that there are many choices. Do you have any experience with any of these? They're all certainly within my budget, but I don't want to "over buy." I like the one with the carpeted shelf, but I question it's necessity, especially at a $50.00 premium. But thank you very much for pointing me in this direction. These are definitely what I had seen before. Ultimately I will end up getting one of these.





for small loads I have one of these:

http://www.amazon.com/Magna-Cart-Personal-Hand-Truck/dp/B000HVVSDU

This is exactly what I have now. I have 2 of them. And though they help, not having a horizontal deck is proving to be a real set back. But yeah...I'm pretty impressed with the 2 I have. They're pretty sturdy and very compact. I would definitely recommend them. I can stack 3 of my SRX712m's on each cart and roll them both at the same time. Bungee cords really help.

[Donnie Frank]

Those carts at Musician's Friend look cool and versatile.

Pneumatic tires are important to me. They wear better. However, be prepared to replace the inner tubes with goo-filled lawntractor tubes for better life.

If you want to try-before-you-buy, hardware stores such as Home Depot or Lowes will usually have a selection of transforming dollys.

Russell

Thanx, Russell. I believe Grandma's Music (local music store) and Guitar Center may carry these. I will also check Lowe's Hardware, as I have a gift card from them left over from 2 Christmases ago. Because I actually want to "try before I buy," I don't think I will be shopping on-line for this item. But both music stores will match or beat Musician's Friend prices. Thanx!

[Donnie Frank]

My local music store carries JamStands. The model they carry that I might be interested in is JS-KC90. Here's a URL:

http://www.ultimatesupport.com/product/JS-KC90

I have 2 concerns:

1) It doesn't seem to fold up as small as I would like.
2) 26 lbs. seems a bit heavy (not for me but for the GF).

#2 item isn't a huge concern, but it would be nice if it were a little lighter.

Okay....in continuing my research, I'm finding that comparable models of JamStand vs. Rock-n-roller ($129.00 models), the Rock-n-roller wins hands down. Though the Rock-n-roller weighs 3 lbs. less, it's load capacity is 200 lbs. more. That's pretty big.

In looking at all the different Rock-n-roller models, it's looks like the R6RT is going to suit my needs. I found them on eBay for $129.00 free shipping. Since I have $32.00 left over in eBay bucks, I think I'm going to go with this.

Thanx to all who contributed to this thread.

[UpTilDawn]

Yes. The "rock-n-roller" carts look to be exactly what I'm looking for. The problem here is that there are many choices. Do you have any experience with any of these? They're all certainly within my budget, but I don't want to "over buy." I like the one with the carpeted shelf, but I question it's necessity, especially at a $50.00 premium. But thank you very much for pointing me in this direction. These are definitely what I had seen before. Ultimately I will end up getting one of these...

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/rock-n-roller-multi-cart-8-in-1-equipment-transporter-cart/h70787000001001

This is the one I've been using for recording gear for more than six years now, with no complaints whatsoever. A drummer friend bought one based on seeing mine... his is this "newer" design with slightly larger wheels than the one I have. He loves it and comments on how good it worked out for him nearly every time we work together.

Get a small air pump of some sort for those times when you might need to re-fill the rear tires. I use an old bicycle foot pump that my dad used to own. It's very handy and rides well in a spare parts bag, or in the corner behind the wheel well of the CRV I drive.

[Donnie Frank]

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/rock-n-roller-multi-cart-8-in-1-equipment-transporter-cart/h70787000001001

This is the one I've been using for recording gear for more than six years now, with no complaints whatsoever. A drummer friend bought one based on seeing mine... his is this "newer" design with slightly larger wheels than the one I have. He loves it and comments on how good it worked out for him nearly every time we work together.

Get a small air pump of some sort for those times when you might need to re-fill the rear tires. I use an old bicycle foot pump that my dad used to own. It's very handy and rides well in a spare parts bag, or in the corner behind the wheel well of the CRV I drive.

This is the exact model I just purchased on eBay. $129.00 free shipping via FedEx Home Delivery. After eBay bucks and my Paypal balance from a previous sale it cost about 100 bucks; way under my budget! Thank you for confirming that I've made the right choice.

I actually have an 80 gallon compressor at my house and a high-quality dual-action folding bicycle pump that I may consider bringing along for emergencies. Thanx for the advice.

[William Bushnell]

Harbor Freight has several items you might be interested in.

http://www.harborfreight.com/material-handling/hand-trucks/330-lb-capacity-foldable-aluminum-platform-truck-92624.html


http://www.harborfreight.com/material-handling/hand-trucks/19-inch-x-29-inch-folding-platform-truck-2758.html

No picture for this one.
http://www.harborfreight.com/material-handling/hand-trucks/24-x-36-folding-platform-truck-68894.html
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William Bushnell

[RandyHyde]

SAC-heads;

I'm in the market for a folding cart. I've seen the kind that can be used as a dolly or a hand truck, but I can't remember the brand I saw. I'm performing in a lot of casinos and I'm tired of looking for carts. This is mostly for my drum kit, but will more-than-likely be used for my sound company, as well. I'm looking for something relatively light-weight, compact and sturdy. I want something of quality that's going to last. At this point price is almost no object. I've budgeted 300 bucks.

I figure this group of musicians/engineers probably has more experience with folding hand trucks and/or dollies than any other collective on the planet, hence this OT post.

When I do drumming gigs, I get my entire shebang in either my 1998 Honda CRV (the "big" vehicle) or my smaller 1988 Honda Civic Wagon 4WD. The latter vehicle gets better mileage, so I tend to use it whenever possible. My GF, Patti, will be using it, too. So it would be beneficial if it were "girl friendly." IOW, easy to use and not too heavy to lift. But those are secondary concerns.

I'm looking for recommendations AND caveats. IOW what to buy and what to avoid.

Thanx a ton for any help you guys can give.

Immediately skip anything associated with Musicians.
Go to Home Depot and buy the heavy-duty Milwaukee hand trucks. They're expensive (about $160 the last time I bought one). But they last 10x longer than anything else. After 10 years, I've finally had the rubber peal away off one of the small wheels on one of the units I own; it's still usable, btw.

I've owned a fair number of other units and they've all died within a year by carrying sound gear on them. Bearings, wheels, axels, they all die.
Cheers,
Randy Hyde

[RandyHyde]

Harbor Freight has several items you might be interested in.


Harbor Freight is a *fun* place to go to. But keep in mind that they only sell disposable gear. I can't think of one thing I've ever bought from HF that has lasted. There is a reason their prices are so cheap. They are the Behringer of the tool world :)
Cheers,
Randy Hyde

[905shmick]

Harbor Freight is a *fun* place to go to. But keep in mind that they only sell disposable gear. I can't think of one thing I've ever bought from HF that has lasted. There is a reason their prices are so cheap. They are the Behringer of the tool world :)
Cheers,
Randy Hyde

North of the border in Canada we have something similar called Princess Auto. Amazing prices but yeah, it's pretty much disposable gear.

[Donnie Frank]

Immediately skip anything associated with Musicians.
Go to Home Depot and buy the heavy-duty Milwaukee hand trucks. They're expensive (about $160 the last time I bought one). But they last 10x longer than anything else. After 10 years, I've finally had the rubber peal away off one of the small wheels on one of the units I own; it's still usable, btw.



I actually own a few quality hand trucks. What I need is something light-weight and foldable for my drumming gigs. The R6 is rated at 500 lbs, which is probably 350 more lbs. than I'll ever need.




I've owned a fair number of other units and they've all died within a year by carrying sound gear on them. Bearings, wheels, axels, they all die.
Cheers,
Randy Hyde

Thanx, Randy, but this is going to be mostly for a drum kit. Rarely (if at all) will it be used for sound equipment.

[Donnie Frank]

Harbor Freight is a *fun* place to go to. But keep in mind that they only sell disposable gear. I can't think of one thing I've ever bought from HF that has lasted. There is a reason their prices are so cheap. They are the Behringer of the tool world :)
Cheers,
Randy Hyde

Screwdrivers, sockets and large wrenches is about all I buy there. Any kind of complex mechanism (like a drill, for instance) is crap. I've had stuff like that break after only a couple uses. Since I always buy good tools, the Harbor Freight purchases were just experiments. Their complex Chinese tools did exactly what I expected them to do.

[dbarrow]

Check these out:

http://search.filmtools.com/search?keywords=cart&catalog=cinemasupplies&go.x=0&go.y=0

http://www.backstageweb.com/magliner.htm

[Soundguy]

Check these out:

http://search.filmtools.com/search?keywords=cart&catalog=cinemasupplies&go.x=0&go.y=0

http://www.backstageweb.com/magliner.htm

I've seen the Filmtools products on movie locations. Expensive, but they are built to last a lifetime.

If you buy the Patron model, does it come with Tequila?

Soundguy

[Alex]

Hey Donnie

Heres a link where you my find what your looking for.

http://www.handtrucksrus.com/

[Sound Machine Inc]

I have owned an original rock-n-roller MAX for the last 22 years.. still going strong, though I HAVE had to use the slime as mentioned before.. I love the darn thing.. I stack over 300lbs on it at every show and it has yet to fail me :)

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/rock-n-roller-multi-cart-8-in-1-equipment-transporter-cart/h70788000001001

[Donnie Frank]

I have owned an original rock-n-roller MAX for the last 22 years.. still going strong, though I HAVE had to use the slime as mentioned before.. I love the darn thing.. I stack over 300lbs on it at every show and it has yet to fail me :)

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/rock-n-roller-multi-cart-8-in-1-equipment-transporter-cart/h70788000001001

Thanx. After doing careful research, I did decide on a "Rock-n-roller" cart. Unlike you, I got the R6. The model you show is the R10. I think the R6 will work for me needs. No matter what model people purchase, they all seem to be happy with what they got. Mine should be here by Thursday or Friday.