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damongold
10-16-2016, 11:47 AM
i came across a show using a S3L and wanted to tie in using AVB. does anyone out there have a rig that utilizes AVB?

PhaseShifter
10-17-2016, 06:59 AM
http://www.sawstudiouser.com/forums/showthread.php?18410-Tio-1608-D-Dante-Setup-Help-Needed

Mattseymour
10-17-2016, 09:34 AM
That thread is about Dante not AVB. To be honest I don't know anyone who has got AVB working properly on a PC. I think about your only option at the moment is the Echo NIC-1. The extent to which any one AVB implementation is compatible with another depends on how the discovery protocols have been implemented. For example Presonus are using AVB between their AI series of consoles, rack mixers and control surface. An AVB equipped Mac can't talk to this kit and vice versa. Presonus kit only finds and talks to their own... though it is using AVB.

RBIngraham
10-19-2016, 08:15 AM
AVB is not really ready for prime time. The reason Dante works as well as it does is because everyone is basically using the same chipset they buy from Audinate. Not so with AVB. There is the AVNU alliance or whatever they call themselves that is sort of a standards body for AVB. But being an open protocol no one has to follow anything really. And to join that group and have your stuff tested does cost a fair amount of money.

The only way I could see getting AVB in and out of Windows machine is to buy some of the MOTU interfaces, hook up your AVB devices to it and then hook up the PC via USB or Thunderbolt (yes MOTU has beta thunderbolt drivers for windows) and use that as bridge to the AVB network.

One member of another forum tried out teh Echo card and couldn't get things to work with the MOTU boxes. So I wouldn't trust that as a viable option unless I could test it out and return the card to Echo if it didn't work.

Mattseymour
10-19-2016, 08:58 AM
Yes, i'd forgotten about the new MOTU line that talks AVB. I would expect the motu boxes to talk to the Avid gear. But you probably want to be sure it really can before you try it. You also have channel limitations. Can't remember how many are supported over the USB connection.

RBIngraham
10-20-2016, 02:38 PM
Yes, i'd forgotten about the new MOTU line that talks AVB. I would expect the motu boxes to talk to the Avid gear. But you probably want to be sure it really can before you try it. You also have channel limitations. Can't remember how many are supported over the USB connection.

It depends on which model of the MOTU you buy. Most allow for 64x64 over USB. But some of the interfaces have lower channel counts to and from software via USB. Probably because they don't expect you to hook up an Ultralite and want to do 64x64 with that interface. Which makes sense for most. But that's too bad for software mixing because that would be perfect for putting a software mixing host at FOH with a handful of I/O and then getting some of their stage box like interfaces hooked up via AVB.

damongold
10-25-2016, 08:19 PM
Since all the rigs i build are MADI im going to give the piviteck a try
http://www.peachstateaudio.com/ProductDetail/E64I%2fO-MADI_Pivitec-64-Channel-Madi-To-Avb-Network-Interface
for $1k its the smallest and least expensive option. After that ill give the Multiverter a shot when rolf releases the AVB dongle.

RBIngraham
10-26-2016, 07:10 AM
Since all the rigs i build are MADI im going to give the piviteck a try
http://www.peachstateaudio.com/ProductDetail/E64I%2fO-MADI_Pivitec-64-Channel-Madi-To-Avb-Network-Interface
for $1k its the smallest and least expensive option. After that ill give the Multiverter a shot when rolf releases the AVB dongle.

Just curious, that box gets you from MADI to AVB. But that doesn't really do anything to get it into your computer does it? Or are you saying that you would have something like an RME audio interface with MADI and then connect this box to get to AVB?

cgrafx
10-26-2016, 10:42 AM
Since all the rigs i build are MADI.


Just curious, that box gets you from MADI to AVB. But that doesn't really do anything to get it into your computer does it? Or are you saying that you would have something like an RME audio interface with MADI and then connect this box to get to AVB?

"The Pivitec e64i/o-MADI is a bi-directional 64-channel MADI to Ethernet AVB Bridge"

Looks to me that is exactly what he was intending. Connect his existing MADI rig to the AVB system using a MADI to Ethernet AVB Bridge.