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mr_es335
06-20-2017, 07:43 PM
Hello,

Anyone have any recommendations on Mini-ITX motherboards?

...and/or 1U rack mount cases and configuration using the RME HDSP 9652.

PS: Just considering it...lots of cons I know...

Thank you!

averombri
06-21-2017, 03:52 AM
My choice is a MoBo Gigabyte GA-H61N-D2V ,3.4 GHz i3 1155 processor and 1U Rack case from X-Case UK and a PCI hammerfall RME connected to a Digiface , your choice would be the same but using a 1.5U case that allows you to fit the expansion board of 9652, i,m frankly happy with my system and it is very reliable.
Not too easy to find this board at this time.

averombri
06-21-2017, 05:57 AM
Watch this out...2628

cgrafx
06-24-2017, 10:51 PM
Hello,

Anyone have any recommendations on Mini-ITX motherboards?

...and/or 1U rack mount cases and configuration using the RME HDSP 9652.

PS: Just considering it...lots of cons I know...

Thank you!

I'm doing a new build right now as I purchased a higher resolution Dell U2515H UltraSharp monitor as part of a system reconfiguration and unfortunately my 2010 ASUS core i5 build doesn't support resolutions above 2048x1536 and I need to get to 2560 x 1440.

I still recommend doing 1.5u or 2u case. The difference in airflow capacity of the fans is significant. You'll also appreciate the additional space available as well. The 1.5u case I use allows stacked cards instead of having to place them horizontally adjacent. (I'm using a RAYDat card).

In my particular case I was looking for a motherboard with display port and gen 7 cpu support. This limited my selection to a narrower range of motherboards.

I ended up purchasing the following.

1 x ($104.99) MSI H270M MORTAR ARCTIC LGA 1151 Intel H270 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard $104.99
1 x ($119.99) Intel Core i3-7100 Kaby Lake Dual-Core 3.9 GHz LGA 1151 51W BX80677I37100 Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 630 $119.99
1 x ($68.99) G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2400 (PC4 19200) $68.99
1 x ($129.99) SAMSUNG 960 EVO M.2 250GB NVMe PCI-Express 3.0 x4 Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V6E250BW $129.99
1 x (-$5.00) DISCOUNT FOR PROMOTION CODE FOR SAMSUNG 960 EVO
-$5.00


Subtotal: $418.96
Tax: $30.37
Shipping and Handling: $1.99
Total Amount: $451.32

I've got both Win7 and Win10 licenses and haven't decided which version of the OS I will settle on, but I will be moving to one or the other (I will be testing both).

I have XP installed on my existing system, but there is other software I need to run on the same system. Win XP is no longer supported for the newer versions of the software, making it desirable to move to win7 or newer.

The existing system is a 3.2GHz core i5-650 with DDR3 RAM and a Samsung SSD on one of the SATA ports. The new system is a 3.9GHz core i3-7100 with DDR4 RAM and a Samsung NVMe SSD connected on an m.2 port.

The newer generation core i3 benchmarks significantly faster than the older core i5, so even with the less efficient OS I'm anticipating better overall system performance with the added benefit of lower power requirements. The TPD for the Core i5 is 73W, the Core i3 is only 51W.

I'll post my system test results once all the parts arrive later next week.

mojogil
06-25-2017, 05:40 AM
Curious, why the i3? I've never been super happy with i3 performance.

mr_es335
06-25-2017, 07:20 AM
averombri,

...i,m frankly happy with my system and it is very reliable....How are you finding the "fan noise levels" - I have heard nothing all that great about 1U chassis.

mr_es335
06-25-2017, 07:20 AM
Hello,

Thanks to all for the comments and suggestions.

I am looking at this case however: In Win IW-RF100 (https://www.in-win.com/en/ipc-server/rf100)

Dimensions: 14.3" x 19" x 1.75"
Weight: 7.5lbs
Form factor: ATX, as I already have an ASUS Z170-P using an i5.

I will be using integrated video and 1U riser card for the RME card.
For this new system, weight is important, and this is one of the lightest chassis that I have found.
I have not yet settled on things yet as I have some queries yet to hear back on.

cgrafx
06-25-2017, 12:22 PM
Hello,

Thanks to all for the comments and suggestions.

I am looking at this case however: In Win IW-RF100 (https://www.in-win.com/en/ipc-server/rf100)

Dimensions: 14.3" x 19" x 1.75"
Weight: 7.5lbs
Form factor: ATX, as I already have an ASUS Z170-P using an i5.

I will be using integrated video and 1U riser card for the RME card.
For this new system, weight is important, and this is one of the lightest chassis that I have found.
I have not yet settled on things yet as I have some queries yet to hear back on.

Thats definitely light weight.

Bear in mind the case is only 1mm thick sheet steel, so you'll probably need to be careful with it as it will likely have a tendency to flex. (shouldn't be an issue once its racked into a case).

You will however be thermally constrained. It only takes 40mm fans, so they have to spin at a high rate of speed to move any air (meaning loud).

I also don't believe you have enough space to put a fan directly the CPU so you'll be limited to a passive CPU cooler (heat sink).

One other thing to note, that case only has space for a single PCI card. You won't be able to use the 2nd half of your RME 9652 (limiting you to 16 channels).

cgrafx
06-25-2017, 12:35 PM
Curious, why the i3? I've never been super happy with i3 performance.

The core i3 is significantly faster than the core i5 650 its replacing and 20watts less heat.

I could do a current generation core i5, but if I want to stay with the lower 65 watt TDP parts, the fastest CPU I can get is 3.5 GHz, so for single threaded operations I should still be getting slightly better performance from the 3.9GHz core i3 and I still save 14 watts of heat and $100+.

mr_es335
06-25-2017, 01:35 PM
cgrafx,

#1. I also don't believe you have enough space to put a fan directly the CPU so you'll be limited to a passive CPU cooler (heat sink).
R1: I am using a Noctua NH-L9i 95mm (https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608029) cooler.


#2. One other thing to note, that case only has space for a single PCI card. You won't be able to use the 2nd half of your RME 9652 (limiting you to 16 channels).
R2: That does not concern me at all as I will only be using eight channels at the most.

cgrafx
06-25-2017, 01:48 PM
cgrafx,

R1: I am using a Noctua NH-L9i 95mm (https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608029) cooler.

I was thinking there might be a thin fan cooler, but didn't do any research. Looks like that should work well.


R2: That does not concern me at all as I will only be using eight channels at the most.

Figured you were already aware of the limitation, but just wanted to point it out just in case.

If/when you get the system together do report back on your experience. Its always good to have additional reference points for future system configurations.

mr_es335
06-25-2017, 01:58 PM
cgrafx,

If/when you get the system together do report back on your experience. Its always good to have additional reference points for future system configurations....I will make sure that I do.

What is particular interesting is that In Win seems somewhat keen on the whole process as well. They have even made a offer to assist me in noise issues if they present a concern - which, interestingly, they state should not.

averombri
06-25-2017, 02:34 PM
averombri,
...How are you finding the "fan noise levels" - I have heard nothing all that great about 1U chassis.
it has a bearable noise level, but i had to remove the original 40 mm. fans and installed a low noise ones, not so powerful air flow now but never had a heating mess...