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IraSeigel
04-18-2008, 03:27 PM
I'm shopping for a parametric eq appropriate for SAC - i.e., 0 latency.

I've read with interest the thread re brickwall limiters, but I didn't come away with an answer to my eq questions:

1. SAW/SAC native vs other? Will there be an inherent advantage to a native plug-in? If that's the case, then it would appear that the Sonoris http://www.sonoris.nl/catalog/equalizer-p-31.html is my only choice. I can't find any info, however, on its latency.

2. If native doesn't offer an advantage, then the Sonalksis http://www.sonalksis.com/index.php?section_id=517 looks very good. Would there be a latency issue with it inside SAC?

3. Are there any other SAC-appropriate parametrics? Other than, of course, SAC's channel eq, which is also very nice.

Thanks,
Ira

AudioAstronomer
04-18-2008, 03:41 PM
If you wait a week or so, there should be an anwida groupbuy..


and you can get a hold of one of these natively :D

http://anwida.com/product.asp?pid=23

Which comes as part of this amazing package that no SAC user should be without: http://anwida.com/product.asp?pid=17

I don't work for anwida, I promise

Naturally Digital
04-18-2008, 03:45 PM
1. SAW/SAC native vs other? Will there be an inherent advantage to a native plug-in? If that's the case, then it would appear that the Sonoris http://www.sonoris.nl/catalog/equalizer-p-31.html is my only choice. I can't find any info, however, on its latency.This is a great EQ and does not have latency. It sounds great and has a nice interface. It does however use a little more cpu than the other choices.

You can also use Bob's EQ plugin but I assume you need a graph or something.

JMS's EQ is rock-solid and efficient. Overall a great EQ with much flexibility. http://www.jms-audioware.com/eq_saw.htm

Anwida also has a SAW/SAC native EQ. http://www.anwida.com/product.asp?pid=23

2. If native doesn't offer an advantage, then the Sonalksis http://www.sonalksis.com/index.php?section_id=517 looks very good. Would there be a latency issue with it inside SAC?No, no latency issues with that one. The Sonalksis sounds great but is more expensive than other options. It also uses more cpu than the others. Recommended for a nice 'analog' sound.

IraSeigel
04-18-2008, 04:08 PM
If you wait a week or so, there should be an anwida groupbuy..


and you can get a hold of one of these natively :D

http://anwida.com/product.asp?pid=23

Which comes as part of this amazing package that no SAC user should be without: http://anwida.com/product.asp?pid=17

I don't work for anwida, I promise


I'm glad to hear that the groupbuy is proceeding. Last I read, you hadn't gotten a response. Yes, I can definitely wait, and it sounds like a great package. Thanks for jogging my memory about the Anwida unit. I overlooked it.



JMS's EQ is rock-solid and efficient. Overall a great EQ with much flexibility. http://www.jms-audioware.com/eq_saw.htm

Anwida also has a SAW/SAC native EQ. http://www.anwida.com/product.asp?pid=23

Thanks for the reminder about the JMS unit. I had completely overlooked this one.

It's nice to have all this info under one thread for future reference and searching.

Thanks,
Ira

Bob L
04-18-2008, 05:49 PM
All of the built-in eqs are parametric... fully sweepable and adjustable on each band.

Bob L

Himhui
04-19-2008, 08:43 PM
Recently, I tried some plugins from stillwell, it's cool !
They are good at producing nice "dirty" & "warm" sound with 0 lantecy for most of their plugins. The price is cheap! You can download to try the evaluaton copies......

http://www.stillwellaudio.com/?page_id=28


I like the 1973 (eq) , badbussmojo, dyno (graphic tranisent tools) AND OLGA (anaolg synth)

http://downloads.stillwellaudio.com/screenshots/1973.png



http://downloads.stillwellaudio.com/screenshots/BBM.png


http://downloads.stillwellaudio.com/img/olga-ss-510.png

safa
12-28-2010, 02:35 PM
For monitor mixes I fell in love with ApulSoft`s apQualizer (recently changed name from former ApEQ) - http://www.apulsoft.ch/apqualizr/ . It works well in SAC (no stability issue so far), takes very reasonable amount of system resources and the way you are dialing filters in is amazing. Furthermore the build-in RTA is very handy during stage monitors ringing out process.

http://www.apulsoft.ch/apqualizr/plug.jpg

TomyN
12-28-2010, 02:39 PM
Hi,

the SAC EQ works fine on the remote.
Did anyone test the others, especial the RTA Display?

Tomy

dbarrow
12-28-2010, 02:54 PM
For monitor mixes I fell in love with ApulSoft`s apQualizer (recently changed name from former ApEQ) - http://www.apulsoft.ch/apqualizr/ . It works well in SAC (no stability issue so far), takes very reasonable amount of system resources and the way you are dialing filters in is amazing. Furthermore the build-in RTA is very handy during stage monitors ringing out process.

http://www.apulsoft.ch/apqualizr/plug.jpgI had tried that a while back, but had some issues with it. Maybe it works better now. I really did like the interface. I would love to have something pretty much just like that that you could operate from remote with that cool interface.

Peter O
12-28-2010, 05:53 PM
On input channels nothing beats the built-in eq, because it is faster to operate than any plug-in, AND it sounds great - at least to my ears.

On output channels I really think the native SAC eq plug-in is as good as any other I've tried. If you like rta I think Bob's frequency analyser plug is very nice...

Best regards Peter O.

dbarrow
12-28-2010, 06:46 PM
On input channels nothing beats the built-in eq, because it is faster to operate than any plug-in, AND it sounds great - at least to my ears.

On output channels I really think the native SAC eq plug-in is as good as any other I've tried. If you like rta I think Bob's frequency analyser plug is very nice...

Best regards Peter O.I use all of Bob's native stuff, I just think the interface on the apQualizr is super cool, ergonomic, etc. It would be cool to have the frequency analizer and the studio EQ evolve into something like that.

Wurst Werner
12-29-2010, 03:52 AM
I was told, that this one works in SAC too-->

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9WdaU6HxzM

dbarrow
12-29-2010, 07:52 AM
I was told, that this one works in SAC too-->

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9WdaU6HxzMCool and intuitive interface. Wouldn't it be cool if you could insert that across SAC output busses (or have it built in) and control it from remote? It looks like a slicker implementation of the existing functionality of Studio EQ and Frequency Analyzer.

safa
12-29-2010, 11:58 AM
I had tried that a while back, but had some issues with it.

... please could you tell me more about the issues you had been facing ? Thanks a lot...

IraSeigel
12-29-2010, 12:22 PM
For monitor mixes I fell in love with ApulSoft`s apQualizer (recently changed name from former ApEQ) - http://www.apulsoft.ch/apqualizr/ . It works well in SAC (no stability issue so far), takes very reasonable amount of system resources and the way you are dialing filters in is amazing. Furthermore the build-in RTA is very handy during stage monitors ringing out process.



I needed a drum trigger for a show last spring, and I decided on Apulsoft's apTrigga. I hated the name, but the plug-in worked well for my show. Thanks for this reminder about the company. They make some decent stuff.

dbarrow
12-29-2010, 02:39 PM
... please could you tell me more about the issues you had been facing ? Thanks a lot...I don't remember. Perhaps it was because I was trying to use it remotely with a remote desktop program. I may try it again. There are a few times when I can adjust the EQ from the host. Usually, the host is on stage and I can't just walk up in the middle of a performance. I normally use Bob's plugins from remote.

safa
12-30-2010, 01:06 AM
I don't remember. Perhaps it was because I was trying to use it remotely with a remote desktop program.

... okay, I was affraid that it was because of some program stability issues or so. Thank you for calming me down ;-)


I normally use Bob's plugins from remote.

... I see and if you are using mainly remote desktop it makes sense a lot, of course.

beau
12-30-2010, 02:19 AM
Ummmm, Nice Eye Candy.

TomyN
12-30-2010, 03:31 AM
All of the built-in eqs are parametric... fully sweepable and adjustable on each band.

Bob L

And they work all fine. The only thing I'd like to have would be the possibility to set left and right channel separately (on the Studio EQ Plugin)

Tomy

sjpaul
12-30-2010, 04:36 AM
You could use outputs 1 and 2 panned left and right, each channel in mono and use an instance of the EQ on each output....

beau
12-30-2010, 10:21 PM
... please could you tell me more about the issues you had been facing ? Thanks a lot...

Made a loud pop when I deleted a filter at about the freq center of the filter.

gdougherty
01-01-2011, 06:12 PM
It's not super lightweight on the CPU, but Electri-Q is almost as easy to use as Fabfilter.

safa
01-02-2011, 12:59 PM
It's not super lightweight on the CPU, but Electri-Q is almost as easy to use as Fabfilter.

... yes, Electri-Q is nice too. I had been using it recently until I found out that this plugin caused many SAC crashes. Furthermore there is no RTA so in my point of view I consider the ApEQ as upgrade over the Electric-Q.

JLepore
01-09-2011, 01:32 AM
For monitor mixes I fell in love with ApulSoft`s apQualizer (recently changed name from former ApEQ) - http://www.apulsoft.ch/apqualizr/ . It works well in SAC (no stability issue so far), takes very reasonable amount of system resources and the way you are dialing filters in is amazing. Furthermore the build-in RTA is very handy during stage monitors ringing out process.

http://www.apulsoft.ch/apqualizr/plug.jpg


Just bought this one tonight - it is freaking amazing. Sound quality is fantastic, took no noticible load at all. The one thing I did find is it started causing slipped buffers when the RTA function was running. Shutting off the RTA cleared it right up (and the EQ functions continued working. For the $75, it was certainly worth it!

dbarrow
01-09-2011, 11:57 AM
Just bought this one tonight - it is freaking amazing. Sound quality is fantastic, took no noticible load at all. The one thing I did find is it started causing slipped buffers when the RTA function was running. Shutting off the RTA cleared it right up (and the EQ functions continued working. For the $75, it was certainly worth it!I do really like the interface of that and the other similar paragraphic EQ plugins. I like how you can see the curve and drag the center frequencies and widths around, while always seeing the curve.

905shmick
01-17-2011, 12:31 PM
Anyone tried the EQuality (http://dmgaudio.com/index.php) EQ/RTA plugin from DMG Audio?

The EQ and RTA are supposed to both be 0 samples latency.

http://i.imgur.com/unCIs.png

mixer100
01-18-2011, 08:23 AM
I sometimes use it. It has features that I really like; the analyzer with the freq plots. the shift function. It sounds quite good. The only problem I have with EQuality is that it seems to be a bit CPU hungry. In my system, about 7% per instance.