Hey Scott, I will never part with my ADA8K's. The are the older ones that the chips don't shut down on idle. My problem is I just bought two MotorMixes and I need to update the ROM's to use both, and Bob says next week is the Christmas sale and I was thinking about SAW Lite. This spending has to stop :-) But probably won't. I'd love to help you on your first order and try one of these out. I will see if I talk myself out of SAW next week, as my rig is set up at a club and I only have a Mac at home so I can't really do any mix downs until I build another rig anyways. But if the price is a lot lower it would behoove me to spend more on it later.