RME makes it so hard to consider leaving them
I've already purchased the components to do a 48 channel MOTU rig. A 424e and a pair of 2408 mk3's. Another 2408 mk anything would even give me another set of adat outs to dedicate for feeding a Behringer personal monitor mix setup I've considered adding to the rig, so I don't have to do anything with wordclock and I can keep the ADAT sync on the preamps. You get all the building block advantages of using audiowire to connect 24 channel sets as well. It all sounds like such a sweet deal.
Until today and I realized again just how awesome RME's drivers and software development is. I'd seen the loopback capability of Totalmix mentioned in the manual, but never bothered playing with it. It's not something I'd normally use.
However, like using the RME multi-client ability to multi-track in Reaper, while it's not as convenient, you could in theory use the Totalmix loopback ability along with Reaper and a little elbow-grease to do a virtual soundcheck or virtual mixing for training. Reaper can route channels directly to a mono/stereo output device and Totalmix will loop that output back to the same numbered input. You can do it in SAW and it's certainly much easier, plus you don't have to worry about possibly stepping on your output devices in SAC, but RME does it at no additional cost.
At least I won't lose the multi-client input addressing with the MOTU hardware. That would definitely be a deal killer.
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Loopback is an ADAT cable away with MOTU :)
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Originally Posted by
JLepore
Loopback is an ADAT cable away with MOTU :)
True enough, but on a system like the install at church, that would involve doing 8 blocks at a time and disconnecting 6x100' adat cables that can be a little temperamental about the connection and doing so in the back of a rack that's not so easily accessible.
In totalmix you ctrl-click the output channel label and it immediately activates the loop back for that channel. The setup there works well for it since the 24 channels onstage are only IEM and wedge outputs. The main outs are on the top 24 that we only use for wireless. I could mimic a small live mix, even down to monitor output without rearranging anything physically and a recall of a totalmix preset would put it instantly back to where it started.
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Motu drivers are multiclient. I've run reaper many times. And cuemix will do the same thing as totalmix, I just prefer to do a loop around on the 2408. And 72 channels is just another 2408 away.
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Which RME card is this? I'm pretty certain that the HDSP 9652 had the loopback functionality removed from it. Was it added back in for the RayDAT?
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Originally Posted by
Yogi
Motu drivers are multiclient. I've run reaper many times. And cuemix will do the same thing as totalmix, I just prefer to do a loop around on the 2408. And 72 channels is just another 2408 away.
Good point - I got in trouble with Cuemix when I first got it and kinda just stay away from it now, but you probably could do the loopback thing there. I always just have a few 3' ADAT cables laying in the rack for emergencies or loopbacks.
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PhaseShifter
Which RME card is this? I'm pretty certain that the HDSP 9652 had the loopback functionality removed from it. Was it added back in for the RayDAT?
RayDAT, latest firmware, latest drivers.
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Just buy SAW, problem solved... no loopback needed at all...
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I use loopback to do all the things SAW was promised to do years ago but doesn't - record outputs. I also use it to create stems for monitors. Since you can't pass groups down to monitor mixes, it lets me use submixes for drums, choirs, etc. without having to build them in every monitor mix.
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Wow - so your converters are on the stage and your interfaces are in the sound booth with 100' of fibre between? Is that correct? If so how is that working for you? What do you see as the benefit of spliltting it up in this way?
Thanks
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gdougherty
True enough, but on a system like the install at church, that would involve doing 8 blocks at a time and disconnecting 6x100' adat cables that can be a little temperamental about the connection and doing so in the back of a rack that's not so easily accessible.
In totalmix you ctrl-click the output channel label and it immediately activates the loop back for that channel. The setup there works well for it since the 24 channels onstage are only IEM and wedge outputs. The main outs are on the top 24 that we only use for wireless. I could mimic a small live mix, even down to monitor output without rearranging anything physically and a recall of a totalmix preset would put it instantly back to where it started.