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    The KISS boxes are very good units with well written drivers. They are NOT cheap! They cost more than your typical off the shelf computer just for one of those boxes. So they are not for those looking for an inexpensive solution. But if you want a robust, quality solution that will probably be more reliable than any of your PCs, it's a good choice.

    If you just want PC to PC communication there is someone out there that has written a free RTP MIDI driver.

    http://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software.html


    I've only used it on one show. It worked OK but I was only using it for a very lite load of of MIDI data. Just an occasional MIDI Show Control Command or two. Nothing like a SAC control surface would generate.
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    Hello,

    Why not the Vienna Ensemble PRO 5 Software?

    Is this not a MIDI Over LAN alternative?

    I have been using it with SS for some time now and "nary a problem with it". Works just great.

    It is about half the price as the other device at around the $240.00 price point (plus the dongle).

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    I've been using the tobias rtpMidi for the last year to run touchdaw from a tablet with nar an issue....EXCEPT that occasionally it will hiccup when trying to make the connection. After it's made it's rock solid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_es335 View Post
    Hello,

    Why not the Vienna Ensemble PRO 5 Software?

    Is this not a MIDI Over LAN alternative?

    I have been using it with SS for some time now and "nary a problem with it". Works just great.

    It is about half the price as the other device at around the $240.00 price point (plus the dongle).
    Is this really a viable MIDI over LAN solution?

    Wouldn't you need a dongle and license for each machine? Or am I missing something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_es335 View Post
    Hello,

    Why not the Vienna Ensemble PRO 5 Software?

    Is this not a MIDI Over LAN alternative?

    I have been using it with SS for some time now and "nary a problem with it". Works just great.

    It is about half the price as the other device at around the $240.00 price point (plus the dongle).
    I thought this was sound over ethernet + midi as well.
    I was tempted but am hanging back for the Dante solution to come down to an affordable level (might never happen!) Don't know if the Dante solution does midi as well?

    RobertV

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    Unless I'm really missing something from the web site, this software is for hosting soft synths and plug ins spread across multiple networked computers and mixing them all down. Either it runs as a plug in in your DAW or you just lock it together with your DAW. Yeah, it looks like it's streaming audio and MIDI over your network, but this is not nearly the same as using it along side SAC to stream audio or MIDI data over you network. Plus it's only for going from one computer to another, so even if you could figure out a way to make it work inside SAC (which I suspect it introduces latency since it's trying to keep multiple machines in sample accurate sync according to their web site) that's only going to be useful to get data from one computer to another.

    Dante is a completely different animal. It is meant for streaming audio between pieces of hardware like a mixing console and a stage box. They just happen to have already created a virtual sound card. But from all accounts I've heard the virtual sound card produces too much latency to be of much use with SAC. Although if someone made the hardware you could go from a stage box to another box with some form of digital I/O on it that would hook up to a sound card.

    Anyway, perhaps I am missing something from the VSL web site, but to me this is for DAW use, not live and is probably worthless inside SAC except to possibly host software synths that you want to play live I guess.
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    Hello,

    Richard, you are absolutely correct...this would NOT be a good tool to use within SAC. Great with SS though.

    I stand corrected (like a Bb13 chord?)!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_es335 View Post
    Hello,

    Richard, you are absolutely correct...this would NOT be a good tool to use within SAC. Great with SS though.

    I stand corrected (like a Bb13 chord?)!
    That's cool. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing the holy grail or something.

    It looks like it would be very cool for SAW or any DAW use though.
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    Hello,

    Maybe for another thread...?

    VE Pro is one fine piece of software...and it works just great with SS.

    So, I have all of my big samples (under Kontakt) on the 64-bit XP machine - loaded with lots of RAM - leaving the XP 32-bit SS system completely unaffected - almost as if there was nothing there - just a simple VST plug-in connecting the Slave to the Master. I really enjoy working with it.

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