I do see what you are saying... although I'm not sure what a controller or 3M would do to change that.
If you change the Grp Latch output masters to actual Group masters and assign them back to Output masters directly, then the group inputs will not be moved along with the group masters... the groups will actually be as analog groups and you will be free to do your scene change controls just on the output masters themselves.
This does offer new concerns though since adjusting the group level will not also adjust any post sends on the input chans for reverb or effects... if you use this method make sure to assign those returns to the group also so they chase as the group level goes up and down.
If your scene change on the group masters is to bring the group all the way down, could you just mute the group instead of moving the group master?
Bob L
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