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    Default OT: musician's ear protection

    Can I get a recommendation?

    I'm in a rock band playing small bars with a loud drummer. Everyone turns up. My ears have been ringing, and that's no good.

    Sure, I could spend hours doing the research, but, as with so many things, it occurs to me that tapping into the wealth of expertise around here makes much more sense.

    Not sure I can afford custom-molded plugs, but recommendations for both generic and custom are appreciated. I've tried the $10 stuff at Guitar Center in the past, and was less than impressed, despite claims of flat frequency response attentuation. They also hurt. I have smallish ear canals, I guess; I invariably use the smallest inserts that come with new earbuds.

    Are there truly products out there that will reduce the volume without losing the feel of music?
    Dave "it aint the heat, it's the humidity" Labrecque
    Becket, Massachusetts

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    Default Re: OT: musician's ear protection

    I've been using these for ear protection when I'm an audience member.
    http://www.walgreens.com/store/c/wal...191592-product
    I have small ear canals also and could never keep regular ear plugs in. These are great. They attenuate without making my head feel stuffy and I don't have to take them out to hear the person next to me.

    I don't know how they would work if you were standing within the band, but they are inexpensive enough to give a try.
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    Default Re: OT: musician's ear protection

    Check out DUBS Acoustic Filters. They are pretty awesome in ear filters for musicians. Very comfortable and reasonably priced.
    Here is a little info:
    DUBS Acoustic Filters are advanced tech ear plugs that reduce the volume without sacrificing the clarity of sound. The DUBS provide a Noise Reduction Rating of 12 dB and are made of 17 individual parts. The DUBS feature a sleek design that fits flush to the ear.

    I am a dealer for them and think they are definitely worth the price. Send my a PM if your interested.
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    Default Re: OT: musician's ear protection

    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    Check out DUBS Acoustic Filters. They are pretty awesome in ear filters for musicians. Very comfortable and reasonably priced.
    Here is a little info:
    DUBS Acoustic Filters are advanced tech ear plugs that reduce the volume without sacrificing the clarity of sound. The DUBS provide a Noise Reduction Rating of 12 dB and are made of 17 individual parts. The DUBS feature a sleek design that fits flush to the ear.

    I am a dealer for them and think they are definitely worth the price. Send my a PM if your interested.
    Look promising. Wonder how they work for those of us who have small canals and can't keep regular earplugs in.
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    Default Re: OT: musician's ear protection

    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    Check out DUBS Acoustic Filters. They are pretty awesome in ear filters for musicians. Very comfortable and reasonably priced.
    Here is a little info:
    DUBS Acoustic Filters are advanced tech ear plugs that reduce the volume without sacrificing the clarity of sound. The DUBS provide a Noise Reduction Rating of 12 dB and are made of 17 individual parts. The DUBS feature a sleek design that fits flush to the ear.

    I am a dealer for them and think they are definitely worth the price. Send my a PM if your interested.
    It was a Facebook ad that for these very ear plugs that got me thinking about all this. I'll PM you. Thanks.
    Dave "it aint the heat, it's the humidity" Labrecque
    Becket, Massachusetts

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    Default Re: OT: musician's ear protection

    change the drummer,
    everyone turns volume down,
    problem solved ;-)
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    Default Re: OT: musician's ear protection

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Labrecque View Post
    Can I get a recommendation?

    I'm in a rock band playing small bars with a loud drummer. Everyone turns up. My ears have been ringing, and that's no good.

    Sure, I could spend hours doing the research, but, as with so many things, it occurs to me that tapping into the wealth of expertise around here makes much more sense.

    Not sure I can afford custom-molded plugs, but recommendations for both generic and custom are appreciated. I've tried the $10 stuff at Guitar Center in the past, and was less than impressed, despite claims of flat frequency response attentuation. They also hurt. I have smallish ear canals, I guess; I invariably use the smallest inserts that come with new earbuds.

    Are there truly products out there that will reduce the volume without losing the feel of music?
    So all you want is cheap and effective?...<;^) Well, my friend, that ain't happenin'. If you want to save your ears, honestly, I would spare no expense.

    I use Fidelity "Triples" earbuds and a Shure PSM200 IEM system. The Fidelity ear buds cost about 1/3 that of the Westones.

    http://www.fidelitycustomearphones.net/node/4

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Shure-PSM200...MAAOSweuxWRRWM

    Getting ear molds from the audiologist will cost about 50 bucks. With a small, 2-space rack, you'll end up spending about 800-900 bucks for everything - and it will be worth every penny. I purchased my Shure PSM200 when they first came out - 10 years ago??? Maybe longer? VERY road-worthy rig. I've had my Fidelity Triples for over 3 years. Best money I ever spent.

    Don't go cheap with your ears, my friend. My only regret is that I didn't pony up and do this sooner...well...actually IEM's hadn't been invented yet...but you get my point.

    Good luck!

    P.S. Tell your drummer to play the room. That's what all us professionals do....<;^)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donnie Frank View Post
    So all you want is cheap and effective?...<;^)
    No, not necessarily.

    I use Fidelity "Triples" earbuds and a Shure PSM200 IEM system. The Fidelity ear buds cost about 1/3 that of the Westones.

    http://www.fidelitycustomearphones.net/node/4

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Shure-PSM200...MAAOSweuxWRRWM

    Getting ear molds from the audiologist will cost about 50 bucks. With a small, 2-space rack, you'll end up spending about 800-900 bucks for everything - and it will be worth every penny. I purchased my Shure PSM200 when they first came out - 10 years ago??? Maybe longer? VERY road-worthy rig. I've had my Fidelity Triples for over 3 years. Best money I ever spent.

    Don't go cheap with your ears, my friend. My only regret is that I didn't pony up and do this sooner...well...actually IEM's hadn't been invented yet...but you get my point.

    Good luck!
    Thanks for the info. It hadn't occurred to me that maybe it's time to go IEM. I have the entry-level Shures (non-custom-molded), but I never liked using them because we didn't have a good monitor mix. Plus -- the wireless gear we had in my last band was less than decent. But -- now that I'm putting together a decent P.A. it might be time to spring for a decent wireless system.

    P.S. Tell your drummer to play the room. That's what all us professionals do....<;^)
    I like that. Haven't heard it said that way. I'll try it. Old drummer -- we'll see if he can learn any new tricks.

    Hey -- while I have you -- an obvious potential problem with in-ears (as I started to allude to, above) is that isolated feeling of note "being in the room with everyone. I've read that a mic pointed at the crowd/dance floor can help with that. Your thoughts? Any other tips on making IEMs work for those of us who put our faith (and money) in them?

    Thanks.
    Dave "it aint the heat, it's the humidity" Labrecque
    Becket, Massachusetts

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    Default Re: OT: musician's ear protection

    Yes a crowd mic in the IEM does wonders for making you feel connected

    I just got an IEM setup from CAD to test out and I am so far impressed It seems to have the range of my Senhiser and Shure units and very good sound quality even with the included dual driver ear buds.

    Butch

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    Default Re: OT: musician's ear protection

    Quote Originally Posted by Butch Bos View Post
    Yes a crowd mic in the IEM does wonders for making you feel connected

    I just got an IEM setup from CAD to test out and I am so far impressed It seems to have the range of my Senhiser and Shure units and very good sound quality even with the included dual driver ear buds.

    Butch
    Butch -- which CAD system? And is it UHF or VHF?
    Dave "it aint the heat, it's the humidity" Labrecque
    Becket, Massachusetts

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