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    Default Re: Long time, no see...everything has changed...

    Micro,

    Quote Originally Posted by cgrafx View Post
    Because its easier to use SAC as a front end to SAW for recording than using SAW alone, particularly for somebody that isn't familiar with SAW Studio.
    ...Plus 1 on this one for sure!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_es335 View Post
    Micro,

    ...Plus 1 on this one for sure!!
    Plus 2 -

    SAC w/SAW doesn't load down the pc as much as SAW by itself for live work and that, I like!
    SAW/SAC - finally retired a P4/2gHz after ten great years! Burnin' rubber in 2015 with an Intel Core2 Duo e4700/2.6GHz and the trusty RME Digiface/PCI pack.

    2013 Iowa City JazzFest sets recorded/mixed in SAW with SAC as a front-end mixer for live streaming radio!
    Dr Lonnie Smith Trio w/Jonathan Kreisberg on guitar
    Pharoah Sanders Quartet
    Fred Hersch Trio

    These are post mix sets to single camera video (by Rich Rauch).

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    UpTilDawn,

    SAC w/SAW doesn't load down the pc as much as SAW by itself for live work and that, I like!
    ...Good to know. Thanks for the tip.

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    Default Re: Long time, no see...everything has changed...

    Quote Originally Posted by cgrafx View Post
    Because its easier to use SAC as a front end to SAW for recording than using SAW alone, particularly for somebody that isn't familiar with SAW Studio.

    SAC provides all the low latency input setup allowing for simple live monitoring of the input channels or even a nice mix while allowing SAW Studio to record in the background without having to do any additional input/output patching.
    Bob used SAW in the demonstration video and I have used saw to record not sure why you would need SAC as it's purpose is live mixing and SAW's is live recording. Sense the OP would just be recording all monitoring should be coming from the live console, SAW would just be recording. I am just going by what the OP said he wants to do.... record.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Microstudio View Post
    Bob used SAW in the demonstration video and I have used saw to record not sure why you would need SAC as it's purpose is live mixing and SAW's is live recording. Sense the OP would just be recording all monitoring should be coming from the live console, SAW would just be recording. I am just going by what the OP said he wants to do.... record.
    All that's true, Micro, but as explained, the OP is much more familiar with the SAC interface. Apparently, using SAC + SAW will get him where he needs to be with the least amount of additional training and no appreciable downside. It's not wrong, it's just different. And if it takes less time and inspires more confidence, it's measurably better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Alexander View Post
    All that's true, Micro, but as explained, the OP is much more familiar with the SAC interface. Apparently, using SAC + SAW will get him where he needs to be with the least amount of additional training and no appreciable downside. It's not wrong, it's just different. And if it takes less time and inspires more confidence, it's measurably better.
    Sorry but totally disagree that it will be easy for anyone to use SAC+SAW just to record. Better to just take a little time to learn how to use SAW to record, in the tutorial Bob shows how easy it is and that's all you have to do. Anyway I hope the OP gets a good recording.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Microstudio View Post
    Sorry but totally disagree that it will be easy for anyone to use SAC+SAW just to record. Better to just take a little time to learn how to use SAW to record, in the tutorial Bob shows how easy it is and that's all you have to do. Anyway I hope the OP gets a good recording.
    It's really not a question of taking the time to learn how to use SAW in this way.
    It's about saving pc resources and making monitoring the recording much simpler.
    SAW/SAC - finally retired a P4/2gHz after ten great years! Burnin' rubber in 2015 with an Intel Core2 Duo e4700/2.6GHz and the trusty RME Digiface/PCI pack.

    2013 Iowa City JazzFest sets recorded/mixed in SAW with SAC as a front-end mixer for live streaming radio!
    Dr Lonnie Smith Trio w/Jonathan Kreisberg on guitar
    Pharoah Sanders Quartet
    Fred Hersch Trio

    These are post mix sets to single camera video (by Rich Rauch).

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    I agree with Micro. SAC is not needed if you are just multitracking a show. No need to make it more complicated. There are times when using SAC at the front end makes monitoring easier. But this instance probably isn't it. It is just as easy to monitor what's going in thru SAW when doing live tracking.

    However, if that's how you want to do it, then fine. It works either way. Just more complicated.

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    I think the point that was being made is that since he knows SAC and doesn't know SAW, it might be simpler to just hook SAC to SAW and record that way (not having to learn much about SAW).

    True that to someone who knows both programs, or neither, or only SAW, SAW alone would be the simplest. Alas, these are not the case, here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angie View Post
    I agree with Micro. SAC is not needed if you are just multitracking a show. No need to make it more complicated. There are times when using SAC at the front end makes monitoring easier. But this instance probably isn't it. It is just as easy to monitor what's going in thru SAW when doing live tracking.

    However, if that's how you want to do it, then fine. It works either way. Just more complicated.
    I use both programs and started on SAW Studio.

    For me I just found it a lot easier to work with SAC running as live low-latency console and using SAW Studio just as the multi-track recorder.

    There are enough differences in the console operation particularly for somebody that doesn't work with SAW Studio regularly, that for my money its easier to work with the two connected programs.

    Of coarse your mileage may vary.
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