GOTCHA!- Disable [Ctrl-Left-Clicking] on any track number arranges all tracks

[Todd R]

from the manual:

"MultiTrack WaveForm Display Area
Track Positioning
[Ctrl-Left-Clicking] on any track number automatically arranges all tracks in numerical order."

Has bitten me in the backside again today...arrraugh!
We need to be able to either undo or disable this command
I would happily disable it; I would never use it

so much of moving things vertically in SAW is using the ctrl key;
and this gotcha can sting if your track order is not at all sequential

afaiaa there is no undo for this and is gonna cost me a few minutes to get my job back in editable order
I have my returns and buses at the top; video and control track too
Mix template gets me part way there

[Todd R]

OK. I had not saved the edl after accidentally hitting the GOTCHA key combo

closed and reopened the edl and all is back as I need it to be...phew

btw I save safety copies very often as I work...so there is that possibility in the event others step in the same trap

[ivanoff]

OK. I had not saved the edl after accidentally hitting the GOTCHA key combo

closed and reopened the edl and all is back as I need it to be...phew

btw I save safety copies very often as I work...so there is that possibility in the event others step in the same trap

hi, have you try the undo key : shift <

[Bob L]

Resetting Track Order creates and undo entry... simply use the Edit/Undo function if you reset the track order by accident.

Bob L

[Todd R]

Resetting Track Order creates and undo entry... simply use the Edit/Undo function if you reset the track order by accident.

Bob L

hmmm, I did look and did try undo
I did not see an entry nor did the undo function when I tried it

[Todd R]

hi, have you try the undo key : shift <

on my machine undo key command is:
ctrl+<

I did try it...did not work
also opened Edit menu > Display EDL Undo History
in the undo list dialog box there was no entry for "arrange track order to default"
I don't know what the actual syntax is because it wasn't listed

[UpTilDawn]

I just tried opening a session, rearranging track order, saving session and then using ctrl + < and it worked.
Also the undo history shows an entry for "before re-order tracks".
was also able to ctrl + > to restore the rearranged tracks.

Not sure why yours isn't working at the moment.

When in doubt that an undo has been created, there's always the numberpad * keystroke to force an undo, assuming your keyboard has a numpad, or equivalent that SAW responds to for that purpose.

[ivanoff]

Oups, mistake in my reply , ctrl + > is correct

[Dave Labrecque]

on my machine undo key command is:
ctrl+<

I did try it...did not work
also opened Edit menu > Display EDL Undo History
in the undo list dialog box there was no entry for "arrange track order to default"
I don't know what the actual syntax is because it wasn't listed

I bet your one time of trying it (the undo) you goofed, somehow. I bet if you try it right now, it will work fine. Cuz that's how it works.

It was an issue when the restore-tracks-to-default-order feature was first implemented. Many user mishaps such as the one you experienced soon had Bob remedying this all-too-common user error by adding the undo layer.

It still catches me to this day.

[Todd R]

I bet your one time of trying it (the undo) you goofed, somehow.

uh...I don't think I did goofed pressing ctrl<
...I use SAW A LOT...you know, like a day job in post ;-P

as I said previously, sometimes SAW gets flakey IME
I find it wise to shut SAW down if I leave my workstation for more than 30 min

I also have daily crashes...typically one only per day; which is one more than I'm comfortable with
...and ONLY using SAW...maybe it's just using SAW is my main computer usage...
so the crash happens regardless
and just so happens SAW is running...as it's my most oft used program

The daily crash is an issue with APC PowerChute...the previous offline version would crash daily around 2100
and now the latest online APC PowerChute Serial also seems to crash daily
seems to be a UPS "health" check which says "cannot connect to APC UPS" or some syntax to that effect
creates a BSOD

I did save an EDL last week when this happened when I noticed my mouse freeze
and that save corrupted my EDL. Fortunately, I always save a safety version which
saved my backside. I should think a SAW undo file would work too.