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    Default Shift-R: Automation Mode Inactive

    If replace a region with automation off and you had automation written on top of said region, automation will be stripped...

    from the User Manual:
    "Replacing MT Entries! Placing the MT Cursor on an entry and pressing [Shift-R] will replace the entry with the currently
    selected Region Listbox region. If Automation Mode is active when you engage the operation,
    automation entries are preserved."

    I didn't realize this until today...it's amazing how there is so much to learn...and I can see this as an excellent way to strip automation
    altho, there are many, many ways to strip automation in SS

    In my work, 95% of my automation in SAW MT is purposefully placed within region boundaries to keep the automation sync'd
    to the audio...so, if the region gets moved...automation goes with the audio

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    Default Re: Shift-R: Automation Mode Inactive

    I have a macro on my x-keys that seeks the start of the region my cursor is on (including the leading softedge if there is one) and marks B, then seeks the end of the region ( again with trailing softedge if there is one) and marks end, and then sets the cursor to the very front of the region. One key, and the region is ready for any automation move I want to make and ready to play that region. It has been a very fast workflow with other similar macros.

    Quote Originally Posted by Todd R View Post

    In my work, 95% of my automation in SAW MT is purposefully placed within region boundaries to keep the automation sync'd
    to the audio...so, if the region gets moved...automation goes with the audio
    Michael McInnis Productions

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    Default Re: Shift-R: Automation Mode Inactive

    Quote Originally Posted by Todd R View Post
    If replace a region with automation off and you had automation written on top of said region, automation will be stripped...

    from the User Manual:
    "Replacing MT Entries! Placing the MT Cursor on an entry and pressing [Shift-R] will replace the entry with the currently
    selected Region Listbox region. If Automation Mode is active when you engage the operation,
    automation entries are preserved."

    I didn't realize this until today...it's amazing how there is so much to learn...and I can see this as an excellent way to strip automation
    altho, there are many, many ways to strip automation in SS

    In my work, 95% of my automation in SAW MT is purposefully placed within region boundaries to keep the automation sync'd
    to the audio...so, if the region gets moved...automation goes with the audio
    I was not aware of the swap region/keep automation feature. Cool. I have other ways of doing that, but not as quick and simple as this. What else don't I know?

    It's long been a SAW best practice to never (there may be exceptions) create automation outside of region entry boundaries. I.e. always create automation within region entry boundaries.
    Dave "it aint the heat, it's the humidity" Labrecque
    Becket, Massachusetts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Labrecque View Post
    I was not aware of the swap region/keep automation feature. Cool. I have other ways of doing that, but not as quick and simple as this. What else don't I know?

    It's long been a SAW best practice to never (there may be exceptions) create automation outside of region entry boundaries. I.e. always create automation within region entry boundaries.
    Wow, I'm glad I could shed light on sumpfin =-D
    Indeed, so much to not know, eh? There is so much we'll never know

    Well, the keeping automation within region boundaries falls on it's face when said automation is in a RETURN or OUTPUT (Bus) track

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd R View Post
    Well, the keeping automation within region boundaries falls on it's face when said automation is in a RETURN or OUTPUT (Bus) track
    True 'nuff. If you're gonna move stuff around, you need to stay vigilant of such things. I guess that's why Bob invented the Slip-Track functionality.
    Dave "it aint the heat, it's the humidity" Labrecque
    Becket, Massachusetts

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    Default Re: Shift-R: Automation Mode Inactive

    Quote Originally Posted by MMP View Post
    I have a macro on my x-keys that seeks the start of the region my cursor is on (including the leading softedge if there is one) and marks B, then seeks the end of the region ( again with trailing softedge if there is one) and marks end, and then sets the cursor to the very front of the region. One key, and the region is ready for any automation move I want to make and ready to play that region. It has been a very fast workflow with other similar macros.
    Show-off.
    Dave "it aint the heat, it's the humidity" Labrecque
    Becket, Massachusetts

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    Default Re: Shift-R: Automation Mode Inactive

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Labrecque View Post
    True 'nuff. If you're gonna move stuff around, you need to stay vigilant of such things. I guess that's why Bob invented the Slip-Track functionality.
    Yup...
    It took awhile to sink in, but I eventually learned to use marked areas for the bulk of my track moving chores (over Select Mode). The slip-track option is killer. Just have to remember to make return and output tracks part of your group move, if including automation on those! (I used to rely on Select Mode way too much.)

    You can write automation outside of region boundaries too, especially helpful if you need to include 'X' fade slopes at either end in the automation. Helpful, also, is using alt + left/right arrow to go exactly to the edge of the boundary 'X' fade slope, when marking the start and end points of a marked area (with or w/out automation).

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    Default Re: Shift-R: Automation Mode Inactive

    You can also use Blank Regions on Return and Output tracks as a place holder for automation entries.

    Bob L

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    Default Re: Shift-R: Automation Mode Inactive

    I did not know this, thanks for the heads up.
    Michael McInnis Productions

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    Default Re: Shift-R: Automation Mode Inactive

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob L View Post
    You can also use Blank Regions on Return and Output tracks as a place holder for automation entries.

    Bob L
    I don't know how to do this. Any time I create a blank region via Region>Create Blank Region;
    then,
    SAW creates a blank region in the Regions View

    if I attempt to:
    1) insert from Regions View to an output or return track;
    then,
    SAW warning dialog with syntax:
    "Sequence Entries May Only Be Placed On Input Tracks"

    or

    2) ctrl-clk-drag an inserted BLANK REGION from an input track to an output or return track;
    then,
    SAW warning dialog with syntax:
    "Track Conflict... Move Cancelled!
    One Or More Entries Are Destined For An Illegal Track!"

    I find no deeper explanation in the Sawstudio64 User Manual v1.4.

    Bob, could you shed some light on how to do this?

    Do I have to use my own audio rather than the included audio file?

    Further, the length of the blank region in SS64 has a duration of 12.40 frames, which would be far too short for my purposes.
    Last edited by Todd R; 10-03-2024 at 07:22 AM.

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