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    Default SOT: The "Maximize" Button

    Good Day,
    I hope that this day finds you all very well!

    Simply out of curiosity - but important to me none-the-less, I have three questions to ask...

    First, "Do you employ the 'Maximize Button' ?"

    Second, "If you DO employ the 'Maximize Button', then why do you do so?"

    Third, "If you DO NOT employ the 'Maximize Button', then why do you NOT do so?"

    You may be as succinct in your response as you wish!

    As always, any assistance in this matter would be greatly appreciated!

    Thank you for your time!


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    Default Re: SOT: The "Maximize" Button

    "Anyone?"

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    Default Re: SOT: The "Maximize" Button

    I don't maximize SAC or SAW because I need quick access to other programs, (Task Bar, File browser, Media Player, Web Browser, etc).

    My default windows are already set to use the entire screen, so maximizing would only cover the task bar at the bottom and I don't want that covered.
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    Philip G.

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    I don't own SAC and I'm still new to SAW, but I think, I'm gonna maximize SAW, because I like to have as less distractions as possible. Inspired by this thread, I made some experimentations and this is what I found so far (on Windows 10):

    1. When you switch from a maximized F-Key to one that is not maximized and then switch back, the previous one is not maximized anymore (bug or feature?). So what I did, was to maximize and save all F-Keys to have SAW always maximized.


    2. Pressing Windows+D normally hides all windows to show the desktop. The SAW windows stays on screen, though. This is actually a good thing, because Windows+D can thus be used to show the Task Bar. Pressing Windows+D once more will hide the Task Bar again. When the Task Bar is visible, one can use the Tab and Arrow keys to navigate to the various elements of the Task Bar (and use Enter to launch a pinned application).


    3. Pressing the Windows key alone, the Task Bar will also be displayed together with the Start Menu. Now one can type the name of a program to find it and press Enter to launch it or press the Windows key again to get rid of the Task Bar again.


    4. I like to use dedicated desktops for different applications. So SAW will be the only program on its desktop. You can switch between desktops with Window+Ctrl+Arrow left/right.

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    Default Re: SOT: The "Maximize" Button

    Macay,

    As a follow-up to your posting:

    You: I don't own SAC and I'm still new to SAW, but I think, I'm gonna maximize SAW, because I like to have as less distractions as possible.
    Me: SAW, and SAC for that matter are "companion applications" and therefore, both have similar functionalities.

    You: Inspired by this thread, I made some experimentations and this is what I found so far (on Windows 10):
    Me: Thanks, I glad that someone found this posting helpful.

    You: When you switch from a maximized F-Key to one that is not maximized and then switch back, the previous one is not maximized anymore (bug or feature?). So what I did, was to maximize and save all F-Keys to have SAW always maximized.
    Me: Yes, this is absolutely required to maintain overall consistency.
    * This anomaly is neither a bug nor feature. If it IS anything, I would say that this anomaly is an inherent Windows anomaly.

    You: Pressing Windows+D normally hides all windows to show the desktop. The SAW window stays on screen, though.
    Me: Have you noticed that the Menu Bar is located at the top of the Window, and not below the Title Bar - as is the situation with all Windows-based applications?
    * The Title Bar is then located below the Menu Bar. SAC is the same!

    You: Now one can type the name of a program to find it and press Enter to launch it or press the Windows key again to get rid of the Task Bar again.
    Me: I tend to disable any Windows background processing features...search being one of them.

    You: I like to use dedicated desktops for different applications. So SAW will be the only program on its desktop. You can switch between desktops with Window+Ctrl+Arrow left/right.
    Me: Do you find that employing this methodology to be appropriate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_es335 View Post
    Me: Do you find that employing this methodology to be appropriate?
    I like to use virtual desktops, because you can have different sets of windows on different desktops and easily switch between them with Windows+Ctrl+Left/Right Arrow. So for example, you could have SAW on desktop 1 and two Windows Explorer windows and one Notepad window on desktop 2, all nicely arranged without overlapping each other. Whatever is needed for the task at hand.

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    Default Re: SOT: The "Maximize" Button

    Good day,

    Well, it would "appear" that Bob has done something with Windows that I have NOT seen elsewhere!

    First, he flipped the Menu Bar and the Title Bar!

    And...second...he has overtaken the "Maximize Button".
    * I do believe that Philip had inferred point this from an earlier reply...however, the extent of that inference did NOT make any sense...until this morning anyhow.

    In normal Windows parlance, when you maximize an application Window, that taskbar remains visible. Though some applications permit the employment of the F11 key - not all applications do.

    However, with SAC and SAW, when you invoke the "Maximize" option, the entire UI is maximized...akin to the employment of the F11 key!

    In ALL of my scripts, I have employed a utility entitled, "ToggleTaskbarAutohid.exe" [TTA] which 1) hides the Taskbar if the Taskbar is currently visible, or 2)
    displays the Taskbar if the Taskbar is currently hidden.
    * This, the normal process has been Launch TTA, Launch SAC|SAW, Exit SAC|SAW, Launch TTA.

    Having SAC|SAW store the MAX|NON-MAX UI state via "F-Key Default" - negates the requirement to employ TTA!

    All that I CAN say is, "Thanks, Bob!' "You 'da man!! You 'da man!!"


    Last edited by mr_es335; 03-30-2025 at 06:10 PM. Reason: Error in defaults!

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