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    Default Partly OT - Video Capture - Dropped Frames

    I'm having a nightmare experience with what should be a straightforward audio-for-video job.

    My collaborator has given me a set of DV tapes whose audio I have to replace. With SAW that's dead easy if I can do a clean capture of the DV from tape in the first place. But even when recording to a newly-formatted HD partition, I'm getting dropped frames with various capture software (including SAW Video Viewer).

    What confuses me is the fact that the 'dropped frames' counter on each of the capture apps always reports '0 dropped frames', yet I have lost them in the AVI file.

    So here's the question: where does the 'dropped frames' counter get its information from? Is it something that comes from the underlying DirectShow functionality? If so, is it only telling part of the story?

    Any light shed on this would help me for the future.

    Thanks in advance,
    Alan Hames
    Leicester, UK

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    Default Re: Partly OT - Video Capture - Dropped Frames

    Read thru the firewire fix threads here... it sounds like you are falling prey to the Microsoft firewire fiasco.

    Bob L

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    Default Re: Partly OT - Video Capture - Dropped Frames

    OK thanks, Bob,

    Have now installed the 2 hotfixes - will see if that does the trick.

    Cheers,
    Alan Hames
    Leicester, UK

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    Default Re: Partly OT - Video Capture - Dropped Frames

    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    OK thanks, Bob,

    Have now installed the 2 hotfixes - will see if that does the trick.

    Cheers,
    Alan... I'm in the midst of the FW threads....
    I see ONE hotfix and a fix we have to do on our own.

    Are there two hotfixes from MS??
    Carl G.
    Voice Talent/Audio Producer
    www.creativetrax.com

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    Default Re: Partly OT - Video Capture - Dropped Frames

    Quote Originally Posted by Carl G. View Post
    Alan... I'm in the midst of the FW threads....
    I see ONE hotfix and a fix we have to do on our own.

    Are there two hotfixes from MS??
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/KB885222

    and

    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/904412

    There maybe others too
    Last edited by AudioAstronomer; 04-16-2008 at 06:48 AM. Reason: Doh! Pasted the same link twice
    Lovingly signed,
    Robert Randolph

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    Default Re: Partly OT - Video Capture - Dropped Frames

    904412 is a new one on me. And it doesn't tell you anywhere what it actually does. Maybe it corrects something fundamentally stupid they don't want to admit to - something more stupid than setting FW to 100Mb/s as a default.

    Dominic

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    Default Re: Partly OT - Video Capture - Dropped Frames

    Quote Originally Posted by AudioAstronomer View Post
    OK... I applied both patches just in case and set SidSpeed to #2 (for FW 400 ext. Drive).
    Here are my HDspeed measurements (in kBytes/Sec)
    FW 400 Ext. Maxtor Drive WRITE: 28,283
    FW 400 Ext. Maxtor Drive READ: 34,492

    By comparison:
    Internal SATA Drive WRITE: 55,341
    Internal SATA Drive READ: 53,585

    Clearly SATA has a big advantage.
    Would you consider the speeds I obtained from my FW 400 Ext Maxtor drive to be normal (for properly set SidSpeed for FW400)????
    Last edited by Carl G.; 04-16-2008 at 03:55 PM.
    Carl G.
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    Default Re: Partly OT - Video Capture - Dropped Frames

    35mb/s for a mid-range FW drive sounds about right.
    Lovingly signed,
    Robert Randolph

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    Default Re: Partly OT - Video Capture - Dropped Frames

    Quote Originally Posted by AudioAstronomer View Post
    35mb/s for a mid-range FW drive sounds about right.
    I think you mean MegaByte, Robert. Yes? (The little b can be confusing to some. Some, like me.)
    Dave "it aint the heat, it's the humidity" Labrecque
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    Default Re: Partly OT - Video Capture - Dropped Frames

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Labrecque View Post
    I think you mean MegaByte, Robert. Yes? (The little b can be confusing to some. Some, like me.)
    35MB/s or 280Mb/s

    I think speaking in bits is silly. It's like saying everything in cents.

    "Ok sir, the total for your groceries is nine thousand, six hundred and fifty three cents."


    Unless we're talking about quantities less than one byte, or are on another platform where the bitcount is different... why don't we all default to byte?
    Lovingly signed,
    Robert Randolph

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