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    Default Re: Is Variable SysEx Automation Possible With Control Track?

    Quote Originally Posted by Microstudio View Post
    Here are a bunch of tutorials on MWS that will help you understand it better.

    http://www.learnsawstudio.com/midi-workshop/
    Your videos have helped me immensely, thanks for that.

    Let me be very clear on what I am asking, tho
    I am specifically interested to know if MWS can record SysEx variable data real time input and play it back afterward. Clearly that data should be editable.

    Consider a Lexicon PCM80 or 81;
    the PCM 80/ 81 LSB first variable SysEx allows for over 10,000 steps of resolution for delay parameters (depending upon the algorithm).
    The PCM81 pitch algos have 7200 steps of resolution. General MIDI 128 step resolution cannot even compare. NRPN/RPN dual channel midi
    can get into the ballpark.

    So using the SAW style parameter value pop-up we all know and love in MWS with 7000+ values would not be a pleasant experience!
    Nevermind, because those pop-ups have not been built nor do I expect they would ever be considered to build.

    I have been working on an ipad remote control using Midi Designer Pro 2 for a few years now and it will eventually get made.
    I would expect MWS might be capable of recording and playback of the PCM8x ipad remote data and then playing back
    as long as MWS control track(s) are hex capable for record and playback. Clearly, this Lexicon LSB first variable SysEx control
    is proprietary and I certainly would not expect these parameter ticks and ranges to be native to MWS.

    So, for my specific interest, I shall purchase MWS in the near future and test it out. I have a crude working prototype of my ipad
    remote control for Lexicon PCM8x global parameters which does have some controls with thousands of parameter values and I could at least
    perform a quick test and report back.

    I'm sure I will watch a bunch of your videos for MWS too :-D
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    Default Re: Is Variable SysEx Automation Possible With Control Track?

    Quote Originally Posted by Todd R View Post
    Your videos have helped me immensely, thanks for that.

    Let me be very clear on what I am asking, tho
    I am specifically interested to know if MWS can record SysEx variable data real time input and play it back afterward. Clearly that data should be editable.
    You might poke around for a utility that extracts SysEx from audio. If you can find that, you could record on an audio track. Then edit the extracted results into chunks to be be played as you want. It sounds like a lot of work. On the other hand, if someone wrote a SysEx extractor they may have gone a lot farther like sequencing it. You may want to ask on the ardour or jack forums - you may be more likely to find people who may know if such a utility exists.

    Years ago I read about higher time resolutions for midi - you could check wikipedia's article and see if newer specifications have been agreed on - and maybe programs that support it.

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